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Ali Baker and a guest discuss children’s fantasy fiction. The guest chooses a favourite for Ali, and Ali chooses a complementing contemporary book. Jokes and the occasional swear word may ensue. Please contact https://www.instagram.com/fantasy_book_swap_podcast/, @alisonbaker01 on BlueSky or https://www.facebook.com/Fantasybookswap. Ask questions, make comments and join in the discussion!
Episodes

Jul 27, 2025
Jul 27, 2025
1 hr 45 min
Caroline's choice: Dawn Wind by Rosemary Sutcliff
Ali's choice (first read in 2022, not 2002!): The Short Knife by Elen Caldecott.
Some books where a “commoner” becomes a prince:
The Prince and the Pauper by Mark Twain
The Prisoner of Zenda and Rupert of Hentzau by Anthony Hope
The Lost Prince by Frances Hodgson Burnett
The Horse and his Boy by C. S. Lewis
Caroline’s Rosemary Sutcliff books
Elen Caldecott’s website and Leaf, the journal of writing for young people
Caroline’s fan writing Reflections in the Shards edited by Claire Brialey and Mark Plummer
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails for production support. Why not go and give his radio show a listen?

Jul 1, 2025
Jul 1, 2025
1 hr 15 min
Jim’s book (with Twilight-style cover); with Alison Moyet cover
Alfred Bester: The Stars my Destination
There are two sequels to War of the Worlds: the straight to DVD adaptation and Stephen Baxter’s The Massacre of Mankind
Material Girls podcast episode discussing Romantasy
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles trailer. This is what the first couple of chapters of Phoenix is like. It doesn’t end up like this.
Jim’s website, Worrad Enterprises
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails, Jack Sadler-Johnson and Danny!

Jun 16, 2025
Jun 16, 2025
47 min
Kylie Ding’s choice: The Rains of Eridan by H.M. Hoover
Ali’s choice: The Zombie Project by Alice Nuttall
The Hugo and Lodestar finalists
Other books for children with adult protagonists (off the top of my head!):
Professor Branestawm by Norman Hunter
Mrs Armitage on Wheels by Quentin Blake

May 19, 2025
May 19, 2025
1 hr 31 min

May 3, 2025
May 3, 2025
59 min
Recorded live at EasterCon in Belfast at 9:30am on Easter Sunday! Please forgive my wheeziness; I was coming down with a chest infection.
Catriona’s choice: The Silver Crown by Robert C. O’ Brien
Ali’s choice: Dread Wood by Jennifer Killick
We discuss Robert C. O’ Brien’s better-known books, Z for Zachariah and Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH. You may like to listen to the episode The Anti- Reepicheep League with Ang Rosin about Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH and The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents here.
We also mention The Demon Headmaster by Gillian Cross; Russell Smith selected it as his Fantasy Book Swap choice.
Jennifer Killick was a guest on the fantastic podcast about children’s books, The Island of Brilliant.
I am not a shill for The Phoenix Comic, I promise.
Catch up with Catriona via her website, https://catrionasilvey.com/index.html

Dec 1, 2024
Dec 1, 2024
47 min
Ida’s choice: The Man whose Mother was a Pirate by Margaret Mahy
Ali’s choice: The Mermaid, the Witch and the Sea by Maggie Tokuda-Hall. The sequel has just been published: The Siren, the Song and the Spy
Ida had a different edition from mine
Other books we mention in this episode:
The Adventures of Amina Al-Sirafi by Shannon Chakraborty
The Little Mermaid by Hans Christian Andersen
Ida’s award-winning short story Infinite Tea in the Demerara Café is in the NewCon Press anthology London Centric
Her novella Fish!
Ida has a story in the anthology Laughs in Space.

Oct 26, 2024
Oct 26, 2024
59 min
Katie’s choice: C.S. Lewis’s The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.
Ali’s choice: David A. Robertson’s The Barren Grounds
Katie is just back from FantasyCon! Next year Brighton hosts World FantasyCon 2025; come and join us!
Neil Gaiman’s short story is called ‘The Problem of Susan’ and is in the collection Fragile Things (it is of course entirely up to you whether or not you wish to support Gaiman’s work by buying it new or second hand.)
Katie couldn’t continue with Robin Hobb’s Soldiers Sons trilogy because the food descriptions brought on morning sickness
Fiona Moore’s blog, where she cooks from SFF cook books so we don’t have to!
Lovely Gili Bar-Hillel introduced me to this brilliant piece of fan fic where Anthony Bourdain reviews Narnian hospitality. Read it, it’s perfect! https://archiveofourown.org/works/137185
The BBC 1988 adaptation of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
Trailer for Greta Gerwig’s adaptation
Tilda Swinton’s White Witch tempts Edmund
I delivered a paper on orientalism in the Chronicles of Narnia at a Historical Fictions Network conference. You can read it here
Scottish bannock recipe. Canadian First Nations Bannocks were adapted from Scottish recipes. I have not found a bison chili recipe; I assume that you first catch your bison.
Find Katie online
@Katiebruce.bsky.social on BlueSky
@Katiebrucecake on Instagram
I was a guest on Steve Vapour Trail’s radio show many moons ago with a selection of fantasy and science fiction-themed music. Enjoy the playlist here. Thank you to Danny for the idents, and to Jack Sadler-Johnson for the use of his beautiful track Bliss.

Oct 16, 2024
Oct 16, 2024
1 hr 3 min
In today's episode I'm joined by Una McCormack, New York Times best-selling author and member of Gold SF editorial board.
Una’s choice: Lucy M Boston’s The Children of Green Knowe . This is the Puffin edition Una has. The 70th anniversary edition is available from Hemingford Grey shop.
Ali’s choice: Pádraig Kenny’s The Monsters of Rookhaven
Una mentions Tom’s Midnight Garden. You can listen to Episode 25 with Tony Keen, where we discuss the book here.
Books mentioned in this episode:
- Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier
- Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë
- Mansfield Park by Jane Austen
- The Spire by William Golding
- Red Shift by Alan Garner
- The Spare Man by Mary Robinette Kowal
- Meg and Mog by Helen Nicoll, illus Jan Pienkowski
- Thornhill by Pam Smy
- Isadora Moon by Helen Muncaster
- Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell by Susanna Clarke
- Earthsea and Annals of the Western Shore by Ursula Le Guin
- Chronicles of Prydain by Lloyd Alexander
Authors mentioned in this episode:
- Catherine Cookson, who is still in print
- Helen Forrester
Una’s most recent book: Doctor Who: Caged
Follow Una on Bluesky @unamccormack.bsky.social
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails. Check out his radio show on Radio Lewes here! Thank you to Danny for the fresh new idents, and to Jack Sadler-Johnson for the use of his beautiful track Bliss.

Jul 28, 2024
Jul 28, 2024
2 hr 3 min
Ep 39- Writeopolis v Fantasy Book Swap, but no dance-off
In today’s episode, I am joined by Scott K. Andrews and Kit Power from the Writeopolis podcast. We have a lovely chat, and then Fantasy Book Swap proper starts at 12 minutes in.
Scott’s choice: The Devil on the Road by Robert Westall
Ali’s choice: Unraveller by Frances Hardinge
The Lodestar award finalists- scroll to the bottom of the page.
My copy of The Devil in the Road. Note the cat’s eye, and the gibbet with the executed witch’s body.
Children of the Stones on YouTube, and the trailer for the adaptation of Red Shift
Robert Westall’s official website
Frances Hardinge’s official website
Frances Hardinge conference, Saturday 11th July 2026, Aston University, Birmingham.
A Wikipedia summary of Hans Christian Andersen’s story The Wild Swans
A list of Joan Aiken’s Wolves books
Find out more about Scott here, Kit here and join the Writeopolis patreon here.
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails. Check out his radio show on Radio Lewes here! Thank you to Danny for the fresh new idents, and to Jack Sadler-Johnson for the use of his beautiful track Bliss.
Until next time, bye!

Jul 9, 2024
Jul 9, 2024
45 min
Firstly, huge apologies for the delay in this episode, which was recorded live at EasterCon, Levitation 2024. Life got in the way.
Tade Thompson’s Bluesky: @tadethompson.bsky.social
Tade’s award-winning novel Rosewater is the New Scientist’s July book club pick.
Tade’s pick: The Masters of Solitude by Marvin Kaye and Parke Godwin. It’s out of print, but widely available second hand with absolutely dreadful covers like this and this, the Conan in Space one.
Ali’s pick: An Ember in the Ashes by Sabaa Tahir.
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails. Check out his radio show on Radio Lewes here! Thank you to Danny for the fresh new idents, and to Jack Sadler-Johnson for the use of his beautiful track Bliss.
Until next time, bye!
