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Ali Baker and a guest discuss children’s fantasy fiction. The guest chooses a favourite for Ali, and Ali chooses a complementing contemporary book. Jokes and the occasional swear word may ensue. Please contact https://www.instagram.com/fantasy_book_swap_podcast/, @alisonbaker01 on BlueSky or https://www.facebook.com/Fantasybookswap. Ask questions, make comments and join in the discussion!
Ali Baker and a guest discuss children’s fantasy fiction. The guest chooses a favourite for Ali, and Ali chooses a complementing contemporary book. Jokes and the occasional swear word may ensue. Please contact https://www.instagram.com/fantasy_book_swap_podcast/, @alisonbaker01 on BlueSky or https://www.facebook.com/Fantasybookswap. Ask questions, make comments and join in the discussion!
Episodes

Sunday Feb 22, 2026
Ep 50: Demon horses and ghost dogs with Anna Smith Spark
Sunday Feb 22, 2026
Sunday Feb 22, 2026
Anna’s book choice: The Moon of Gomrath by Alan Garner
Ali’s book choice: Vivi Conway and the Sword of Legend by Lizzie Huxley-Jones. Sadly, I have just found out that Knights Of publishers have gone out of business, so Vivi’s trilogy is out of print. Hopefully you will be able to find them at online second hand book stores.
Find out more about Anna Smith Spark
The Bread Horse by Alan Garner- front cover. Boneland, which I intend to read.
The Ceffyl Dwr, the wild hunt, Afanc. Rhianna Pratchett’s podcast on British mythology, Mythical Creatures, discusses water demons in episode 3.
Herne the Hunter. Herne features in The Box of Delights by John Masefield, Silver in the Tree by Susan Cooper and (foreshadowing!) Tad Williams’s Memory, Shadow and Thorn series.
Angharad Golden-Hand. Rhiannon. Epona, the Celtic horse goddess, who has nothing to do with Sulis/ Aquae Sulis/ Bath.
Hobby Horse- a May Day tradition, originally associated with Morris dancers. The Mari Lwyd is a Christmas tradition, first referenced in the early 19th Century.
Gelert the wolfhound; of course Gelert's grave isn't real.
Nina Beachcroft, an excellent children’s author of spooky stories. Anna discusses Cold Christmas, which is the name of a hamlet in Hertfordshire, Nina Beachcroft’s home county- and mine, though I grew up near Watford rather than Hertford.
The Stephen Collins cartoon on Netflix exposition
Nancy Drew, The Chalet School- there are 58 books in the original series, but it was incredibly difficult to read them in order in the 1970s and 1980s! I encountered the wonderful Scrivener’s Books when in Buxton for Novacon. It’s a wonderful place, and that perfect shop for stumbling over that elusive third book in an out of print series!
I remembered Pat O’Shea’s The Hounds of the Morrigan and Aliette de Bodard on Motherhood and Erasure in speculative fiction- Aliette talks about this blog on the Breaking the Glass Slipper podcast.

Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Ep. 49: When magic isn't a metaphor with Robert Berg
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Robert's choice: The Marvellous Land of Oz by L. Frank Baum
Ali's choice: Wynd book 1: The Flight of the Prince by James Tynion IV and Michael Dialnyas
Robert is 1/4 of wonderful Bona Books! The Wrath Month kickstarter is still open for stretch goals backing.
Return to Oz (1985) trainer here: relive your childhood trauma!
I still can't find the Arena documentary, but here is a PBS one
Robert's favourite Oz retelling is Wicked by Gregory Maguire
Mine is Was by Geoff Ryman
Pride is a wonderful film about solidarity and intersectional identity
For other episodes on "race/ ethnicity" in fantasy, check out this episode with Russell Smith; for queerness in fantasy, this one with Juliet Kemp.
Follow Rob on Bluesky and Instagram
Follow me on Instagram for gorgeous images from Wynd and more!

Friday Aug 22, 2025
Ep 48: The anti-authoritarian politics of naughtiness with Sandra Bond
Friday Aug 22, 2025
Friday Aug 22, 2025
Ep 48 Shownotes
Sandra’s book: The Wind on the Moon by Eric Linklater
Ali’s book: The Wild Robot by Peter Brown. It’s also a film
The Politics of Fantasy by Brian Attebury
Catherine Crumb on her bicycle
Nicolas Bentley’s illustrations
Rudyard Kipling’s Just-So Stories
Murderbot by Martha Wells. It’s also a TV series
Sandra is not a dog groomer from the US
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails for production support. Why not go and give his radio show a listen?

Sunday Jul 27, 2025
Ep 47: Worldbuilding Britain in historical fiction
Sunday Jul 27, 2025
Sunday Jul 27, 2025
Caroline's choice: Dawn Wind by Rosemary Sutcliff
Ali's choice (first read in 2022, not 2002!): The Short Knife by Elen Caldecott.
Some books where a “commoner” becomes a prince:
The Prince and the Pauper by Mark Twain
The Prisoner of Zenda and Rupert of Hentzau by Anthony Hope
The Lost Prince by Frances Hodgson Burnett
The Horse and his Boy by C. S. Lewis
Caroline’s Rosemary Sutcliff books
Elen Caldecott’s website and Leaf, the journal of writing for young people
Caroline’s fan writing Reflections in the Shards edited by Claire Brialey and Mark Plummer
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails for production support. Why not go and give his radio show a listen?

Tuesday Jul 01, 2025
Episode 46: In Space, nobody provides childcare
Tuesday Jul 01, 2025
Tuesday Jul 01, 2025
Jim’s book (with Twilight-style cover); with Alison Moyet cover
Alfred Bester: The Stars my Destination
There are two sequels to War of the Worlds: the straight to DVD adaptation and Stephen Baxter’s The Massacre of Mankind
Material Girls podcast episode discussing Romantasy
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles trailer. This is what the first couple of chapters of Phoenix is like. It doesn’t end up like this.
Jim’s website, Worrad Enterprises
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails, Jack Sadler-Johnson and Danny!

Monday Jun 16, 2025
Episode 45: Rainy season at the Hotel Romero
Monday Jun 16, 2025
Monday Jun 16, 2025
Kylie Ding’s choice: The Rains of Eridan by H.M. Hoover
Ali’s choice: The Zombie Project by Alice Nuttall
The Hugo and Lodestar finalists
Other books for children with adult protagonists (off the top of my head!):
Professor Branestawm by Norman Hunter
Mrs Armitage on Wheels by Quentin Blake

Monday May 19, 2025
Ep 44: Horses and curses and home, but not at home
Monday May 19, 2025
Monday May 19, 2025

Saturday May 03, 2025
Ep 43: Uncontextual pineapple with Catriona Silvey
Saturday May 03, 2025
Saturday May 03, 2025
Recorded live at EasterCon in Belfast at 9:30am on Easter Sunday! Please forgive my wheeziness; I was coming down with a chest infection.
Catriona’s choice: The Silver Crown by Robert C. O’ Brien
Ali’s choice: Dread Wood by Jennifer Killick
We discuss Robert C. O’ Brien’s better-known books, Z for Zachariah and Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH. You may like to listen to the episode The Anti- Reepicheep League with Ang Rosin about Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH and The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents here.
We also mention The Demon Headmaster by Gillian Cross; Russell Smith selected it as his Fantasy Book Swap choice.
Jennifer Killick was a guest on the fantastic podcast about children’s books, The Island of Brilliant.
I am not a shill for The Phoenix Comic, I promise.
Catch up with Catriona via her website, https://catrionasilvey.com/index.html

Sunday Dec 01, 2024
Ep 42: Pirates and Mermaids and Witches with Ida Keogh
Sunday Dec 01, 2024
Sunday Dec 01, 2024
Ida’s choice: The Man whose Mother was a Pirate by Margaret Mahy
Ali’s choice: The Mermaid, the Witch and the Sea by Maggie Tokuda-Hall. The sequel has just been published: The Siren, the Song and the Spy
Ida had a different edition from mine
Other books we mention in this episode:
The Adventures of Amina Al-Sirafi by Shannon Chakraborty
The Little Mermaid by Hans Christian Andersen
Ida’s award-winning short story Infinite Tea in the Demerara Café is in the NewCon Press anthology London Centric
Her novella Fish!
Ida has a story in the anthology Laughs in Space.

Saturday Oct 26, 2024
Ep 41: Narnia Business with Katie Bruce
Saturday Oct 26, 2024
Saturday Oct 26, 2024
Katie’s choice: C.S. Lewis’s The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.
Ali’s choice: David A. Robertson’s The Barren Grounds
Katie is just back from FantasyCon! Next year Brighton hosts World FantasyCon 2025; come and join us!
Neil Gaiman’s short story is called ‘The Problem of Susan’ and is in the collection Fragile Things (it is of course entirely up to you whether or not you wish to support Gaiman’s work by buying it new or second hand.)
Katie couldn’t continue with Robin Hobb’s Soldiers Sons trilogy because the food descriptions brought on morning sickness
Fiona Moore’s blog, where she cooks from SFF cook books so we don’t have to!
Lovely Gili Bar-Hillel introduced me to this brilliant piece of fan fic where Anthony Bourdain reviews Narnian hospitality. Read it, it’s perfect! https://archiveofourown.org/works/137185
The BBC 1988 adaptation of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
Trailer for Greta Gerwig’s adaptation
Tilda Swinton’s White Witch tempts Edmund
I delivered a paper on orientalism in the Chronicles of Narnia at a Historical Fictions Network conference. You can read it here
Scottish bannock recipe. Canadian First Nations Bannocks were adapted from Scottish recipes. I have not found a bison chili recipe; I assume that you first catch your bison.
Find Katie online
@Katiebruce.bsky.social on BlueSky
@Katiebrucecake on Instagram
I was a guest on Steve Vapour Trail’s radio show many moons ago with a selection of fantasy and science fiction-themed music. Enjoy the playlist here. Thank you to Danny for the idents, and to Jack Sadler-Johnson for the use of his beautiful track Bliss.
