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Ali Baker and a guest discuss children’s fantasy fiction. The guest chooses a favourite for Ali, and Ali chooses a complementing contemporary book. Jokes and the occasional swear word may ensue. Please contact https://www.instagram.com/fantasy_book_swap_podcast/, @alisonbaker01 on BlueSky or https://www.facebook.com/Fantasybookswap. Ask questions, make comments and join in the discussion!
Ali Baker and a guest discuss children’s fantasy fiction. The guest chooses a favourite for Ali, and Ali chooses a complementing contemporary book. Jokes and the occasional swear word may ensue. Please contact https://www.instagram.com/fantasy_book_swap_podcast/, @alisonbaker01 on BlueSky or https://www.facebook.com/Fantasybookswap. Ask questions, make comments and join in the discussion!
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4 days ago
Ep 52: Team Binabik with Stewart Hotston
4 days ago
4 days ago
Stewart Hotston is the chair of the BSFA.
Stewart’s choice: Memory, Sorrow and Thorn by Tad Williams (First in the Dragonbone Chair trilogy. It is 5 1/2 cm deep.
You can see the original cover on Tad Williams’s website
Ali’s choice: Shadow of the Fox by Julie Kagawa. It is considerably less thick.
The Girl with All the Gifts by M. R. Carey. A novel about a child, but not a children’s book.
Aliette de Bodard’s essay On Motherhood and Erasure. Anna Smith Spark’s A Sword of Bronze and Ashes is one of the few fantasy books where a mother is the protagonist. Catherynne M. Valente’s excellent The Refrigerator Monologues addresses the phenomenon of fridging women characters as a plot device and motivation for male superheroes.
Stewart recommends Richard Swan, David Wragg and Neal Stephenson’s Baroque cycle for interesting takes on mythology and folklore.
Wuxia such as Monkey adapted from Journey to the West by Wu Cheng’en. Zen Cho’s novelette The Order of the Pure Moon Reflected in Water.
Historical C-dramas are very big on yearning glances. Stewart is currently watching Veil of Shadows.
Stewart recently read The Library of Broken Worlds by Alaya Dawn Johnson.
The CLPE’s Reflecting Realities report demonstrates that the number of children’s books with protagonists of colour published in 2025 was lower than in previous years. Stewart wrote a blog about representation and the Clarke Awards.
EasterCon is the British SFF fan-run con that travels around the UK. Next year it is in Glasgow!
Find Stewart online! Website, Bluesky, Nerds of a Feather. Read Project Hanuman.

Saturday Apr 11, 2026
Ep 51: A snake out of water with Emily Tesh
Saturday Apr 11, 2026
Saturday Apr 11, 2026
Emily’s choice: Briar’s Book/ The Healing in the Vine by Tamora Pierce
Ali’s choice: A Snake falls to Earth by Darcy Little Badger
Darcie Little Badger's website
EasterCon- the annual British fan-run Science Fiction and Fantasy convention
Emily was on a panel celebrating the centenary of Anne McCaffrey
Scholastic Book Fairs are still going!
Tamora Pierce’s books have been challenged and removed from libraries. Attempts at censoring reading are rising in the UK. If you want to read to support authors, please bear in mind that LGBTQ+ authors and authors of colour are more likely to be under threat of having their books removed from libraries and schools. See the list of books removed from Lowry Academy in Manchester where a librarian has lost her job and is unlikely to work with young people again. For more information on the effects of book banning on authors, listen to this episode of Our Opinions Are Correct with Maggie Tokuda-Hall.
Food in SFF- Dr Fiona Moore cooks recipes from SFF cook books so we don’t have to. She found this recipe for cherry tarts inspired by Alanna: The First Adventure.
The Buffalo Hunter Hunter by Stephen Graham Jones has been nominated for several awards. Stephen Graham Jones is also a Native American (Blackfeet) author who writes mostly in horror. I also really enjoyed Monoquill Blackgoose’s To Shape a Dragon’s Breath.
Darren Chetty’s ‘You can’t say that! Stories are supposed to be about white people!’ from Nikesh Shukla (Ed) The Good Immigrant. This book was published by Unbound, which has collapsed.
The amazing Petronella Breinburg, who was born in Suriname, not the Caribbean.
You didn't hear it from me, but Emily's website is https://emilytesh.net/ and you can follow her on Bluesky @emilytesh.net.
You should definitely listen to Eight Days of Diana Wynne Jones, though.
Thank you as always for listening, sharing and engaging!

Sunday Feb 22, 2026
Ep 50: Demon horses and ghost dogs with Anna Smith Spark
Sunday Feb 22, 2026
Sunday Feb 22, 2026
Anna’s book choice: The Moon of Gomrath by Alan Garner
Ali’s book choice: Vivi Conway and the Sword of Legend by Lizzie Huxley-Jones. Sadly, I have just found out that Knights Of publishers have gone out of business, so Vivi’s trilogy is out of print. Hopefully you will be able to find them at online second hand book stores.
Find out more about Anna Smith Spark
The Bread Horse by Alan Garner- front cover. Boneland, which I intend to read.
The Ceffyl Dwr, the wild hunt, Afanc. Rhianna Pratchett’s podcast on British mythology, Mythical Creatures, discusses water demons in episode 3.
Herne the Hunter. Herne features in The Box of Delights by John Masefield, Silver in the Tree by Susan Cooper and (foreshadowing!) Tad Williams’s Memory, Shadow and Thorn series.
Angharad Golden-Hand. Rhiannon. Epona, the Celtic horse goddess, who has nothing to do with Sulis/ Aquae Sulis/ Bath.
Hobby Horse- a May Day tradition, originally associated with Morris dancers. The Mari Lwyd is a Christmas tradition, first referenced in the early 19th Century.
Gelert the wolfhound; of course Gelert's grave isn't real.
Nina Beachcroft, an excellent children’s author of spooky stories. Anna discusses Cold Christmas, which is the name of a hamlet in Hertfordshire, Nina Beachcroft’s home county- and mine, though I grew up near Watford rather than Hertford.
The Stephen Collins cartoon on Netflix exposition
Nancy Drew, The Chalet School- there are 58 books in the original series, but it was incredibly difficult to read them in order in the 1970s and 1980s! I encountered the wonderful Scrivener’s Books when in Buxton for Novacon. It’s a wonderful place, and that perfect shop for stumbling over that elusive third book in an out of print series!
I remembered Pat O’Shea’s The Hounds of the Morrigan and Aliette de Bodard on Motherhood and Erasure in speculative fiction- Aliette talks about this blog on the Breaking the Glass Slipper podcast.

Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Ep. 49: When magic isn't a metaphor with Robert Berg
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Robert's choice: The Marvellous Land of Oz by L. Frank Baum
Ali's choice: Wynd book 1: The Flight of the Prince by James Tynion IV and Michael Dialnyas
Robert is 1/4 of wonderful Bona Books! The Wrath Month kickstarter is still open for stretch goals backing.
Return to Oz (1985) trainer here: relive your childhood trauma!
I still can't find the Arena documentary, but here is a PBS one
Robert's favourite Oz retelling is Wicked by Gregory Maguire
Mine is Was by Geoff Ryman
Pride is a wonderful film about solidarity and intersectional identity
For other episodes on "race/ ethnicity" in fantasy, check out this episode with Russell Smith; for queerness in fantasy, this one with Juliet Kemp.
Follow Rob on Bluesky and Instagram
Follow me on Instagram for gorgeous images from Wynd and more!

Friday Aug 22, 2025
Ep 48: The anti-authoritarian politics of naughtiness with Sandra Bond
Friday Aug 22, 2025
Friday Aug 22, 2025
Ep 48 Shownotes
Sandra’s book: The Wind on the Moon by Eric Linklater
Ali’s book: The Wild Robot by Peter Brown. It’s also a film
The Politics of Fantasy by Brian Attebury
Catherine Crumb on her bicycle
Nicolas Bentley’s illustrations
Rudyard Kipling’s Just-So Stories
Murderbot by Martha Wells. It’s also a TV series
Sandra is not a dog groomer from the US
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails for production support. Why not go and give his radio show a listen?

Sunday Jul 27, 2025
Ep 47: Worldbuilding Britain in historical fiction
Sunday Jul 27, 2025
Sunday Jul 27, 2025
Caroline's choice: Dawn Wind by Rosemary Sutcliff
Ali's choice (first read in 2022, not 2002!): The Short Knife by Elen Caldecott.
Some books where a “commoner” becomes a prince:
The Prince and the Pauper by Mark Twain
The Prisoner of Zenda and Rupert of Hentzau by Anthony Hope
The Lost Prince by Frances Hodgson Burnett
The Horse and his Boy by C. S. Lewis
Caroline’s Rosemary Sutcliff books
Elen Caldecott’s website and Leaf, the journal of writing for young people
Caroline’s fan writing Reflections in the Shards edited by Claire Brialey and Mark Plummer
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails for production support. Why not go and give his radio show a listen?

Tuesday Jul 01, 2025
Episode 46: In Space, nobody provides childcare
Tuesday Jul 01, 2025
Tuesday Jul 01, 2025
Jim’s book (with Twilight-style cover); with Alison Moyet cover
Alfred Bester: The Stars my Destination
There are two sequels to War of the Worlds: the straight to DVD adaptation and Stephen Baxter’s The Massacre of Mankind
Material Girls podcast episode discussing Romantasy
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles trailer. This is what the first couple of chapters of Phoenix is like. It doesn’t end up like this.
Jim’s website, Worrad Enterprises
Thanks as always to Steve Vapour Trails, Jack Sadler-Johnson and Danny!

Monday Jun 16, 2025
Episode 45: Rainy season at the Hotel Romero
Monday Jun 16, 2025
Monday Jun 16, 2025
Kylie Ding’s choice: The Rains of Eridan by H.M. Hoover
Ali’s choice: The Zombie Project by Alice Nuttall
The Hugo and Lodestar finalists
Other books for children with adult protagonists (off the top of my head!):
Professor Branestawm by Norman Hunter
Mrs Armitage on Wheels by Quentin Blake

Monday May 19, 2025
Ep 44: Horses and curses and home, but not at home
Monday May 19, 2025
Monday May 19, 2025

Saturday May 03, 2025
Ep 43: Uncontextual pineapple with Catriona Silvey
Saturday May 03, 2025
Saturday May 03, 2025
Recorded live at EasterCon in Belfast at 9:30am on Easter Sunday! Please forgive my wheeziness; I was coming down with a chest infection.
Catriona’s choice: The Silver Crown by Robert C. O’ Brien
Ali’s choice: Dread Wood by Jennifer Killick
We discuss Robert C. O’ Brien’s better-known books, Z for Zachariah and Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH. You may like to listen to the episode The Anti- Reepicheep League with Ang Rosin about Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH and The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents here.
We also mention The Demon Headmaster by Gillian Cross; Russell Smith selected it as his Fantasy Book Swap choice.
Jennifer Killick was a guest on the fantastic podcast about children’s books, The Island of Brilliant.
I am not a shill for The Phoenix Comic, I promise.
Catch up with Catriona via her website, https://catrionasilvey.com/index.html
